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Australia Apology to Aborigines

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I truly admire your writing Ed and your thoughts...you have a global outlook and a sensitivity which transcends borders and reach out to brothers and sisters across planet earth....i admire your guts and spirit ...you are a citizen of the world...you belong to the universe, as all of us ideally should!!
For all your words you write remarkably little that makes sense, can be borne out by adequate research, and is anything more than uninformed, wild-eyed rhetoric. Succinctly, you assume much while knowing little. That may work when other uninformed readers follow your words but to anyone with even a modicum of authentic knowledge your rant is largely the type of bigot-piece you accuse the white Australians of using.

"... for decades were allowed to have their priority list ordered in such a way by the amount of public outrage and clamour that it would take to have this take place much earlier ..."

Ah, I see. So the referendum on the Aboriginal vote, in which 94% of white Australians made clear that native people should be fully included, just didn't happen. There was no pressure built up by the public which directed the government of the day to even consider a referendum. I see.

There appear to be many things you couldn't help noticing during your stay of a few weeks, years ago. You have assumed much from that time, and most of it appears to be shallow, brittle, accusative and misdirected. It shows an almost complete misunderstanding of how the Aboriginal culture works. European settlement brought its own work ethic: stay put, sink roots, and take the longer view. This is anathema to the Aboriginal culture which was and is largely nomadic, has no written language, hundreds of dialects, and little in the way of inter-tribal fusion and solidarity.

Uneducated (usually by choice or direction of tribal councils and elders) not only in Western ways but also in the value of an ongoing classroom-setting education itself, it's no wonder a preponderance of Aboriginals work in menial jobs, when they choose to work in built-up areas at all. Your insinuation that they are kept down is as unfair to them and their cultural mores as it is to the whites.

"For starters, let Australia be renamed with a name of the aborigines' choosing, or an ancient name if there was one. Do we not carry on the surnames of our parents? Well, let the country carry the surname of their benefactors. Let's see how sincere you are."

Yes, there was one. It's common knowledge to every child in Australia. So much for your dubious research and understanding of the facts and issues. In terms of name-changing as some sort of proof of sincerity I can only ask: "How old are you?" That is as childish as it is absurd.

In reading your diatribe I found many holes large enough to throw dogs through in your 'research', knowledge, understanding and opinions (which are largely uninformed and, I think, meant to mislead others who don't know the indigenous and transplanted histories of the country). I suppose I could point to credible sources but, frankly, if you can't be bothered to be the least bit rigorous in your research before making so many outlandish claims i don't see why I should do your work for you.

You have misrepresented not only the native people but also the successive transplanted populations. You paint a picture that is nothing more than a very badly-scribbled caricature using all the wrong colours. It's clear to me that you have no understanding of historical or contemporary issues as they relate to Australia, which includes its indigenous population.

Many (most) non-indigenous people are breathing a sigh of relief that the apology will be made on February 13th. Similarly, we have not, by and large, begrudged the billions of dollars directed towards helping the indigenous people. Our courts upheld the Wik and Mabo land rights issues, as they should have. Uluru resorted to its original name. There are literally thousands of instances where these decisions have worked profoundly in the interests of the historical landowners.

"More than a century of gross discrimination", you say? Try 220 years as a more accurate historical timeframe. Yours wasn't even close. The discrimination ran both ways. When we go back to 1788 let's have a look at who threw the first spear. One can only wonder what atrocities on both sides may have been prevented had not that spear pierced a sailor's chest, and had it not been followed up with savage and unprovoked attacks on sleeping sailors, who at that time were merely explorers for the English Crown and neither settlers nor invaders.

Now let's look at vilification: yours.

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chamber-persons" - we don't use derogatory position descriptions like this. How Eurocentric of you.

"enclaves" - hahahahaha! They're called 'communities'. Our 6-year olds know that.

"idiots" - do you mean people who disagree with you?

So much ammunition, so little motivation. I could feel my IQ plummeting just reading this mish-mash of supposition, outright wrong-headedness, and risible and uninformed conjecture, but the bit I liked the most was your admonition that any idiot (using yourself as a benchmark?) who disagrees with you should do their research. That was great. Thanks for the laugh, otherwise I might have taken you seriously.

Your insultingly narrow-minded, jaundiced view of all Australians, coloured and otherwise, is not mitigated by posting a few youtube videos and your feeble attempts to make yourself the spokesperson and champion of indigenous Australians.

I hope this in some small way rounds out the education you so sorely need on the subject.
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There appear to be many things you couldn't help noticing during your stay of a few weeks, years ago. You have assumed much from that time, and most of it appears to be shallow, brittle, accusative and misdirected.

They were observations i couldn't help noticing because of its sharp contrast to what i did notice in the opposite sense whilst in the UK for 5 years. The difference stood out in terms of contrast. I also didn't mention that the amount of rudeness to myself was far more in those couple of weeks in Cairns than i encountered throughout my 5 years in the UK. Interesting and thought-provoking contrast i'm sure you would agree. I also observe similar contrasts between the UK and 'my' country - albeit to a greater degree.

Uneducated (usually by choice or direction of tribal councils and elders) not only in Western ways but also in the value of an ongoing classroom-setting education itself, it's no wonder a preponderance of Aboriginals work in menial jobs

That is interesting. So, in other words, much of the plight of the aboriginals are self-inflicted by way of their culture serving as an impediment to their aspiring to other things besides what their ancestors have done. I see that you undervalue the value of media representation and inclusion in significantly plotting the course of one's aspirations, amongst others.

I do not disagree with you entirely though. One's existing culture can also inhibit one's adoption or embrace of another. To what degree this is true of the aboriginal culture is another matter though.

For myself, i am quite unprepared to blame those who have verifiably been victimised till all discriminatory impediments to their emancipation have been removed.

"Yes, there was one. It's common knowledge to every child in Australia. So much for your dubious research and understanding of the facts and issues. In terms of name-changing as some sort of proof of sincerity I can only ask: "How old are you?" That is as childish as it is absurd."

Common knowledge is nice. Let's make it official shall we....and render the current official name 'common knowledge'. My suggesting the name-change is not to 'get back' at the 'white' australians but to simply promote egalitarianism by allowing the first to put themselves last so that they may be more amenable to other changes after this significant and undoubtedly difficult step. For to do that is to give great significance, for starters, to the culture they have disparaged in many ways from the time that 'australia' was colonised.

And, by the way, if you think 'my age' is relevant to determining the validity of my argument, than your own ability to determine relevance in any discussion is suspect.

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There are literally thousands of instances where these decisions have worked profoundly in the interests of the historical landowners. "

I do not deny the efforts at change by quite a few australians and the government themselves. But i do not, unlike yourself, devalue the value of an apology for that which significantly served to found the current state of 'australia'. Giving the aboriginals the vote includes them, but dear sir, it does not elevate them to historical and social equality as opposed to democratic equality. Now if you are suggesting that the former two does not compromise the latter of the three, i beg you reevaluate your standpoint.

Additionally, it is not only what is being done but what is not being done that is my primary concern. When you study human history and social and individual psychological tendencies, you will find that many a time 'what is done' frequently serves as a refuge for many who will confuse it with 'enough being done'. Whilst changes still may occur, it is this attitude that slows down progress. That is what i would term, 'the principle of relative relief' where one confuses the relief one feels for relief itself as opposed to a simple lessening of that which one has suffered.

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One can only wonder what atrocities on both sides may have been prevented had not that spear pierced a sailor's chest, and had it not been followed up with savage and unprovoked attacks on sleeping sailors, who at that time were merely explorers for the English Crown and neither settlers nor invaders."

That is pure rubbish.

When, or if, you study the racial discourses of the 18th and 19th centuries, and the perspectives of 'respectable' historical figures, you will find that the plight of the aborigine had far more to do with the attitude fuelling western global banditry. All one had to do was to simply refuse entry and exploitation rights to the 'colonialists' and trouble can be expected. This is borne out by the treatment experienced by various asian countries, south america, and africa. 'Resistance', my friend, was taken as a sure sign of 'savagery'. This, coupled with 'nudity', the absence or presence of 'civilisational' infrastructure, not having cities, not having an exploitative relationship with nature, etc, were also variables that were pertinent in determining if emissaries or a sabre was sent as a greeting card.

Assimilation, and the degree to which this took place correlated very well when i did comparison studies between every asian nation. Any wonder why Japan was granted equality with western nations in 1895(or was it 1905...not too sure) due to their rigorous observation of assimilation 'where it mattered'?

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"chamber-persons" - we don't use derogatory position descriptions like this. How Eurocentric of you."

'Derogatory'? You mean you came up with a term to mask the job description? How novel and nice.

""enclaves" - hahahahaha! They're called 'communities'. Our 6-year olds know that."

I suggest you avail yourself of a dictionary. Perhaps a 6 year old could point you to one;)

""idiots" - do you mean people who disagree with you?"

You've taken it out of context i'm afraid. But i'm sure you knew that.

"So much ammunition, so little motivation. I could feel my IQ plummeting just reading this mish-mash of supposition, outright wrong-headedness, and risible and uninformed conjecture, but the bit I liked the most was your admonition that any idiot (using yourself as a benchmark?) who disagrees with you should do their research."

Perhaps you over estimated your IQ? Just a thought.

As for the rest, again, taken out of context. Perhaps you didn't know that.

"Your insultingly narrow-minded, jaundiced view of all Australians, coloured and otherwise, is not mitigated by posting a few youtube videos and your feeble attempts to make yourself the spokesperson and champion of indigenous Australians."

Is it not? Why? You ought to be a politician mate. You exhibit a remarkable ability to take things out of context and alleging victimisation of those whose cause is actually being given the attention it sorely needs. Remarkable indeed. By the way, you have made much personal allegations that have not, in the most part, been substantiated by proof. But, if you're an aspiring politician, i suppose this article has provided you with some practice.

Keep up the good work. I suppose not much education is required to put up the 'argument' you have forwarded. You have, indeed, done much with little sir.

Thank you for dropping by. 'Twas quite entertaining. I'm sure you can find your way out.:)


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Hi Shobha,

I realised the illusory value of 'borders' and 'racial identity' in my late teens. These nationalist flags serve to do little more than serve as binds that blind one to one's true human and global identity. But i dare say you know and feel the same from your poetry. :)

I recall speaking for some hours with an aboriginal who was, according to him, one of the 'stolen generations'. Wish i could have spent more time in Australia so that i could have gotten to know more of the aborigines. I remember recording the discussion on video. Will put it up if i find it. Personally, i'm a fervernt admirer of the aboriginal culture. Watching their dance and listening to their music was like a 'homecoming' to me that hit me like a ton and a half of bricks. Strange, i'm supposed to 'be indian'. But i've always felt something else that includes India and so much more.

Thanks for your kind words Shobha. :)

ed

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