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<p><br /><span style="font-size: 1.5625em;"></p></span><p>Stop the presses! Christopher Hitchens just noticed that waterboarding is torture!</p><p>Hitchens announced the news like he&#39;d brought it down from Mount Sinai, in a <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/hitchens200808"><em>Vanity Fair</em> article</a>.
&quot;Believe me,&quot; he told a waiting nation, &quot;it&#39;s torture.&quot; Well, yeah. It
usually is, when it happens to you. When it happens to somebody else,
it&#39;s &quot;extreme interrogation.&quot; I thought everybody over the age of 5
knew that, but as usual, I misoverestimated the media. Hitchens&#39; tame
little torture session is the biggest S&amp;M video on the web since
&quot;9½ Weeks.&quot;</p><p><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5zs17_hitchens-water_news">Hitchens&#39; video</a>
is totally fake -- there&#39;s even soft-rock background music playing on
the video, better music than you usually get at the dentist&#39;s office,
and his &quot;interrogators&quot; treat him more like a client getting a mud pack
at a spa than a real suspect in Iraq. That makes it even more
disgusting that Hitch caved in after only 11 seconds of having water
poured over a towel on his face. Eleven seconds! Think about the
timeline here: For five long years he supported this stuff when it was
happening to other people. Once it happened to him, he needed exactly
11 seconds to see the light.</p><p>Of course if Hitchens had been a
real Iraqi suspect, they&#39;d never have had to waterboard him at all.
They do that to tough suspects, not wimps like him. In a real torture
cell, everything would be a lot tougher from the start. For example,
Chris wouldn&#39;t be in the nice dress shirt and slacks he&#39;s wearing on
the video. He&#39;d be naked -- a gross image, what a lifetime of booze and
lying does to the body, but we have to be hard-nosed here -- because
keeping the prisoner naked is basic interrogation strategy, especially
with a culture as horrified of gettin&#39; nekkid as Arabs are. You&#39;ll
recall that in those Abu Ghraib pictures, the prisoners were naked.</p><p>So
that&#39;s fake already, and the video gets faker as it goes. The guys
&quot;interrogating&quot; him are fat, middle-aged, mild-mannered dudes. They
don&#39;t even yell at him. A real suspect in Iraq would be snatched off
the street, smacked around until he passes out, stripped and dumped
into a cell with a hood over his head. He wouldn&#39;t be able to sleep off
his misery, either, because sleep deprivation is one of the oldest,
most effective tortures. The interrogators would maintain this schedule
for hours, days, weeks, depending on how well and how soon the victim
breaks down. When they think he&#39;s ready -- like, they notice with
satisfaction that he screams like a steam whistle every time he hears
footsteps in the corridor -- they drag him out of his cell and strap
him onto that waterboarding table.</p><p>Well, Chris is a busy man and
didn&#39;t have time for all that background research, so what you see in
this video is a guy who hasn&#39;t been so much as slapped or yelled at.
Who probably just finished a 10-martini lunch at some upscale
restaurant. That&#39;s ridiculous enough, but the interrogators make it
even more ridiculous with their little introduction to the torture
session. One guy says, &quot;All right, listen up, I&#39;m going to give you
some instructions ...&quot; Then he tells the fat man on the table, &quot;We&#39;re
going to place metal objects in each of your hands,&quot; and if he feels
&quot;unbearable stress&quot; at any time, all he has to do is drop the objects
and they&#39;ll stop.</p><p>I&#39;ve had dentists who did root canals on me
without being that nice; they stuck to &quot;this is going to hurt.&quot; More to
the point here, putting the victim in &quot;unbearable stress&quot; is, uh, the
whole point of torture, or &quot;extreme interrogation,&quot; or whatever you
want to call it. The last thing you&#39;d ever do is give the victim a
sense of power, like he can stop the process by dropping a &quot;metal
object&quot; on the floor.</p><p>That kind of etiquette is what you get from
those expensive dominatrixes English dudes like to get whipped by, or
those nerf BDSM sites that talk about &quot;consensual power exchanges.&quot;
What reminded me most of those BDSM sites is the &quot;code word&quot; they tell
Hitchens he can use to stop the waterboarding: &quot;That word is red,
R-E-D.&quot; They ask him if he understands and he says, &quot;Yes, sir.&quot; That
&quot;sir&quot; only added to the ridiculous porn feel here, like Hitchens was
paying a hundred pounds an hour to have Baron Whipsong or Lady Cruella,
whichever way he likes it, wear out their riding crop on his eager
little bum.</p><p>The real thing isn&#39;t nearly so nice. After you&#39;ve
been beaten on bruises (which hurt more each time) for a few days, they
slam the cell door open, screaming abuse at you, kick you to your feet
and take you down the corridor, slamming your head into the walls as
often as they feel like it, and strap you down. And all the time
they&#39;re screaming: &quot;OK, you worthless (Arabic obscenity here) -- We&#39;re
through with you! We don&#39;t even want you any more! Ever drown before,
(obscenity)? Ever go swimming head-first, (obscenity)?&quot;</p><p>If you
remember &quot;The Big Lebowski,&quot; you can get a better idea of what
waterboarding is like by remembering the scene where the Dude walks
into his bungalow, where Jackie Treehorn&#39;s yuppie thugs are waiting for
him. The blond one grabs the Dude&#39;s hair and runs him headfirst into
the toilet, screaming, &quot;Where&#39;s the money, Lebowski? Where&#39;s the money,
shithead?&quot; See, the point is to show overwhelming, terrifying power
over the suspect, not give him little safety words.</p><p>But all that
niceness doesn&#39;t matter once the torturer&#39;s helper takes a plastic milk
container full of water and pours it, bit by bit, over a towel covering
Hitch&#39;s face. The &quot;metal object,&quot; whatever it is, drops after 11
seconds. And of course these fake interrogators are all over Hitch,
making sure he&#39;s OK. That&#39;s also totally fake, but why bother listing
any more fake features of this nonsense? The truth is that anybody
who&#39;s been through as much dentistry as I have knows that nobody holds
out under torture. It&#39;s not just the pain, it&#39;s the fear of the pain. I
used to try to be a hero like the ones in my war books every time I
went to have a root canal from the mean old Armenian who did our dental
work. He scrimped on the Novocain, so I had plenty of scope to
practice. And I learned the same thing any sane person knows by the
time they grow up: Nobody can resist torture. Just like anybody knows
what having water poured over a towel on your face is like: It&#39;s like
drowning. Duh. Anybody who wanted to know that already knew it.</p><p>So
why does Hitchens make such a big show of just realizing it now, after
five years of supporting it? To me, the answer&#39;s easy: He&#39;s withdrawing
from Iraq, making a big Jesus-on-the-cross demonstration, like a public
punishment, for supporting the war all this time. By getting himself
tortured in this half-assed way, he gives himself a reason to see the
light, desert from the Neocon forces before it&#39;s too late. Karl Rove
won&#39;t be happy, though, because the last thing the GOP wants is for
people to start realizing what we&#39;re actually doing in Iraq. Reminds me
of the debate about abolishing flogging with the cat-o&#39;-nine-tails in
the British Navy. The first time the bill was introduced, everybody
laughed at how ridiculous a notion that was. Then somebody thought of
having a real cat-o&#39;-nine-tails introduced to the House of Commons, a
bloody old Exhibit A. Nobody said a thing; they just voted unanimously
to forbid it.</p><p>That&#39;s all it takes to change anybody&#39;s mind about
torture, getting one little 11-second whiff of it, even if it&#39;s nowhere
close to the real thing. The interesting thing is not that Hitchens
changed his mind; it&#39;s the strategic thinking that made him decide to
do it now. The timing of this little martyr is the key here, and what
it tells you is that Hitchens is declaring martyrdom and getting out.
He just unilaterally withdrew from Iraq, and in only 11 seconds.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /> <div><br /></div></p>   <p style="clear:both;"> 
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		<div class="module-subheader"><p>Paul Kelly, Editor-at-Large
			| <em class="timestamp">July 05, 2008</em>
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	<p class="intro"><strong>THE
energy, financial and political woes that grip the US signal a decisive
shift in world power, mocking the liberal delusion that Barack Obama or
John McCain can return American prestige and power to its pre-Bush year
2000 nirvana. There is no such nirvana. There is instead a new reality:
the greatest transfer of income in human history, away from energy
importers such as the US to energy exporters; the rise of a new breed
of wealthy autocracies that cripple US hopes of dominating the global
system; and demands on the US to make fresh compromises in a world
where power is rapidly being diversified.</strong></p>
	
	<p>Far from
the Obama-McCain contest being America&#39;s saviour, it has another
dimension entirely: evidence of the generic failure of the US political
system. The US struggles but seems unable to confront the world that
exists. It slips into pessimism while fooling itself another
irresistible revival is just around the corner. But the structural
trends offer a different conclusion. </p>
<p>Despite cyclical fluctuations, world oil and energy prices will stay
high, driven by long-run changes in supply and demand. This provokes a
global wealth redistribution without precedent to oil exporters, mainly
in the Middle East and Russia, that marches in tandem with China&#39;s
export-driven current account surplus. It is an extensive transfer of
economic power away from the US to nations that are not mainly
democracies, a dynamic that is the subject of agonising review in
seminars and debates in the US. </p>
<p>Flynt Leverett, former director of Middle East Affairs on the
National Security Council, says: &quot;The international economic position
of the United States has deteriorated substantially since the new
millennium. The big trends in global finance and energy markets are
working against the US. There isn&#39;t any solving this problem in terms
of making it go away. These are ongoing realities. The energy picture
is not going to change: it is here to stay.&quot; </p>
<p>World oil prices have risen from $US16 a barrel in 2001 to $US140
($145.50) a barrel today. No respite is in sight. This week the
International Energy Agency warned that the oil market would stay tight
for the next five years, with the capacity to expand supply severely
restricted. Non-energy-rich developing nations will be crippled and
confront recessions, dislocation and violence; giants such as the US
will face deep political and economic adjustment. Australia is both a
winner and a loser as its coal and gas export prices rise and it pays
more for petrol; but it is a big winner overall from the broad-based
commodity boom likely to run for decades. </p>
<p>Writing in the May-June issue of Foreign Affairs, US strategic
analyst Fareed Zakaria, whose new book The Post-American World is
reviewed in The Weekend Australian Review today, puts the oil trend
into a wider context, arguing that the third great power shift of the
past 500 years is under way. </p>
<p>The first was the rise of the Western world that began in the 15th
century; the second was the rise of the US in the late 19th century;
and the third is what analysts call the rise of the rest. This is the
shift in power to parts (but not all) of the developing world that are
&quot;experiencing rates of economic growth that were once unthinkable&quot; and
whose total gross domestic product surpasses that of the industrialised
nations. Countries driving this structural change are China, India,
Brazil, Russia, the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries
and Gulf nations, and parts of Southeast Asia. </p>
<p>This points to a more complex global power structure, unlike the
duopoly of the Cold War or the brief US unipolar period post-1989 that
so deceived US President George W. Bush. For Zakaria, &quot;on every
dimension other than military power - industrial, financial, social,
cultural - the distribution of power is shifting, moving away from US
dominance. That does not mean we are entering an anti-American world.
But we are moving into a post-America world.&quot; </p>
<p>Opinions are divided about the strategic consequences. In his new
book The Return of History and the End of Dreams, US analyst Robert
Kagan argues that &quot;the world has become normal again&quot; with the smashing
of hopes for a post-1989 liberal international order based on
democratic values and US dominance. Instead, Kagan argues, the future
will witness a range of powerful nations aspiring to be global or
regional powers - Russia, China, India, Japan, Europe and Iran -
working in various forms of co-operation and competition with the US. </p>
<p>Energy and financial trends are reinforcing. Sovereign wealth funds
from nations with a current account surplus have more than $US3trillion
in assets and this figure will grow to $US12trillion by 2015. The
biggest funds are those of China and the Gulf Co-operation Council.
This technique, in one form or another, is followed by China, Saudi
Arabia, Kuwait, Singapore, Brazil and Russia. Leverett says the GCC
will surpass China to &quot;become the world&#39;s most important investor&quot;. </p>
<p>Western oil companies own only about 8 per cent of proven oil
reserves. Energy-rich governments and national oil companies own more
than 80 per cent, a significant structural shift since the 1970s. As
demand for energy continues, the cash reserves of oil exporters and
their sovereign funds will expand dramatically. This drives a transfer
of global financial power and creates huge imbalances. </p>
<p>Where do such funds go? They finance America&#39;s excess of consumption
over savings. The US needs about $US2 billion each day to finance its
trade deficit. These funds are coming, increasingly, from the energy
and export-strong developing nations courtesy of their governments,
which control sovereign wealth fund strategies. Going into US bonds and
securities, such investments constitute a heavy US dependence on the
developing world&#39;s trade surplus nations. </p>
<p>In his comments this week to the Carnegie Council workshop in New
York, Leverett said that when US politicians talked about achieving
energy independence, &quot;either they don&#39;t understand how stupid that is
or they do understand and say it anyway&quot;. He argued that the classic
remedy to confront the US&#39;s declining currency was to raise interest
rates and balance the budget, but there was no sign &quot;that either McCain
or Obama will do this&quot;. The US debate &quot;was about some other planet from
where we are now&quot;. </p>
<p>In the current issue of The American Interest, Gal Luft, from the
Institute for the Analysis of Global Security, argues that &quot;perpetually
high oil prices will undoubtedly transform the existing world economic
order&quot;. Even below today&#39;s prices, OPEC could potentially buy the Bank
of America with two months&#39; worth of production and General Motors with
six days&#39; worth. This dictates only one sensible response:
non-petroleum fuels must become the US&#39;s top strategic economic
priority, to be introduced over a generation. </p>
<p>The US is tied to interdependence with sovereign wealth funds. In
the present US crisis, Bear Stearns has disappeared but other US
financial institutions would have sunk without the operation of these
funds. </p>
<p>The US is hostage to global oil markets, for years having refused to
embark on radical reforms to break its consumer oil addiction. The
price of such refusals will plague the present generation of
politicians and consumers. </p>
<p>Addressing the same Carnegie Council workshop, Nikolas Gvosdev,
editor of another publication, The National Interest, said the idea
that the US could determine the global order has been terminated. It is
not clear whether the US Congress grasps this reality. The alternative
world order to the liberal internationalism favoured by the US is that
defined by state-to-state negotiations and agreements. This is the
favoured model of Russia and China and many other emerging countries. </p>
<p>This model gives priority to state sovereignty and non-interference;
it asserts the international system is for states, not individuals; it
contradicts New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman&#39;s theory of
globalisation based on the rise of individualism via technology; and it
means that the rise of the rest equates to a growing premium on state
power as more countries feel able to assert their national interest. </p>
<p>This is the threat that dominates Kagan&#39;s book. &quot;Chinese and Russian
leaders are not just autocrats,&quot; he says. &quot;They believe in autocracy.
The modern liberal mind at &#39;the end of history&#39; may not appreciate the
enduring appeal of autocracy in this globalised world.&quot; </p>
<p>The logic of Kagan&#39;s position is that the UN Security Council is
paralysed not just by different interests, it is paralysed by rival
ideologies about the international system. </p>
<p>Kagan quotes Russia&#39;s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying that
&quot;for the first time in many years a real competitive environment has
emerged in the market of ideas&quot; between different &quot;value systems and
developments&quot;. </p>
<p>China puts it bluntly: the selection of whatever social system by a
country is the affair of the people (read government) of that country.
This strikes at the deepest orthodoxy of US strategy and ideology. The
first sentence of the 2002 National Security Strategy signed by Bush
says: &quot;The great struggles of the 20th century between liberty and
totalitarianism ended with a decisive victory for the forces of freedom
and a single sustainable model for national success: freedom, democracy
and free enterprise.&quot; </p>
<p>This claim is now in doubt. Such doubts will be reinforced by the
shifts in global energy and financial power during the next decade. US
analyst Steven Weber, who has written for The National Interest on the
fracture between the West and the rest, says of Bush&#39;s declaration:
&quot;These are powerful sentiments, powerfully expressed. But they are
simply not factual representations of today&#39;s operational global
reality. The world doesn&#39;t look like that.&quot; </p>
<p>Zakaria remains an optimist. He says the choice for the US is
between adjusting to a world of more diversity and viewpoints and
watching a process of &quot;greater nationalism, diffusion and
disintegration&quot; that rips apart the post-World War II order shaped by
the US. He argues that the trend among emerging nations is still
towards markets and some form of democracy. </p>
<p>In its presidential season, the US, far more than Australia, is
caught with a political system unable to respond to challenges. The
Obama-McCain contest is a cosmetic that conceals the nature of the US&#39;s
difficulty. The downturn reflects problems in the financial system and
the real economy. </p>
<p>For the US there is no easy solution to the structural forces
driving oil, energy and financial markets. Yet much of the political
debate remains in denial of these forces. </p>
<p>The task for the next president is to reform US economic and energy
policy - to strengthen the US at home - and to conduct a foreign policy
that recognises a more diverse world defined byinterdependence. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.org/" target="_blank">www.foreignaffairs.org</a><br /><a href="http://www.the-american-interest.com/" target="_blank">www.the-american-interest.com</a><br /><a href="http://www.nationalinterest.org/" target="_blank">www.nationalinterest.org</a></p>
	
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        <title>The evolution of a conspiracy theory</title>   
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 150%;">A &#39;conspiracy
theory&#39; is a &#39;theory&#39; and not a &#39;science&#39;, not because it cannot be a
&#39;science&#39;, but because the lack of transparency disables its &#39;theorists&#39; from
putting their respective theories to the scientific test.&#160; This doesn&#39;t
invalidate it, but just gives us a good reason for total transparency.&#160; Of
course there are dissenters who laugh at &#39;conspiracy theorists&#39;, but these are
the real fools who actually believe that all that they see must be true simply
because they see it.&#160; That is nothing more than a medieval mentality and
such people should be denied the right to vote - as are children.<br /></p>

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If you think about it further, once there is total transparency, &#39;conspiracy
theory&#39; will cease to exist as such and become one of the modules within
political science.&#160; 
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So go on &#39;Conspiracy theorists&#39;, you&#39;re doing good.</p>

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        <title>Should the Church of England appoint women bishops? - vaginal discrimination?</title>   
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<p><br />Let&#39;s put it another way - should the Church of England appoint bishops without penises?&#160; </p><p>...which makes me immediately wonder what the relevance of what&#39;s between my legs is to the Word of God.</p><p></p>   <p style="clear:both;"> 
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 150%;">There is no
doubt that windows is quite the dodgy software.&#160; I&#39;ve been using it since
win95 through to winXP and am hesitant to fork out money for what will certainly be the latest DBI version of Vista (dodgy-but-improved).&#160; But one of the reasons why it is such a &#39;crap&#39; OS
compared to, say, MacOS - according to reports - is that Mac is competing <strong>with
</strong>Windows whilst Windows is competing with previous versions of <strong>itself</strong>.&#160; </p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 150%;">Here is where I apply what I call, &#39;the principle of relative relief&#39;, to understand this.&#160; In
other words, so long as what we experience is better than what we are used to,
we can potentially mistake it for &#39;good&#39; simply because it provides us with
greater relief than what we are accustomed to - that&#39;s why political systems, cultures, the human condition, etc, can remain is such a sorry state year after year.<br /> </p>

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But hey, who cares, that&#39;s capitalism for you - selling screwed up goods so
that we can sell you upgrades for the future and depend on the Principle of
Relative Relief to help the fat bast*rds rake it in.&#160; Anyway, I&#39;m waiting
for a Win version of the MacOS that enables software written for the windows environment to be used within a MacOS environment.&#160; All that Mac has to do is to write up a software compatible with software written for windows.&#160; Of course that&#39;s not going to happen anytime soon as the fangirls and boys waving flags under the loins of each company are too busy forking out money to maintain either camp without pushing for an amalgamative strategy.&#160; So long as Mac can keep their software attached to the hip of their hardware, they can rake in money for their hardware as well.&#160; That&#39;s &#39;progress&#39; for you.<br /></p><p><br /><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 150%;"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify; line-height: 150%;"><br /></p>

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        <title>Set Phasers to Shun (or The Fine Art of Not Caring)</title>   
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        <p>It&#39;s not pleasant to be ignored.&#160; It&#39;s not nice to go unacknowledged.&#160; It&#39;s even less pleasant and less nice when the act of ignoring or the absence of acknowledgement serves as a means to avoid having to care.</p><p>Because by showing that you notice someone, by acknowledging their existence - their basic presence - leads to a connection.&#160; And a connection leads to conversation.&#160; And conversation leads to awkward questions like:&#160; &quot;How are you?&quot;, &quot;How is your day going?&quot;, &quot;How did you end up in this situation?&quot; and &quot;What are your chances of changing the situation?&quot;.</p><p>And so it is, or at least that is how it seems, that the good citizens treat my friend who sells the Big Issue locally.<br />It seems that they avoid recognition of her, so they can avoid acknowledging her, so they can avoid conversing with her, so they can avoid being concerned with her, so they can avoid caring about her.</p><p>Not everyone.&#160; But the vast majority of them (us).<br />Ignorance is bliss, unless you&#39;re the one being ignored.&#160; It must be soul destroying to have so many people looking past you, through you, around you, at their feet, at anything else but you... anything else at all, just to avoid connecting, conversing, caring.<br />An acknowledgment doesn&#39;t have to be an invite into something that&#39;ll bind you like a rope or commit you like a solemn oath. <br />It&#39;s basic. And it&#39;s easy.&#160; And it doesn&#39;t cost a penny.<br />Just look.&#160; Just say hello.&#160; Just smile.&#160; Just stop for a moment.&#160; Just notice. <br /> </p>   <p style="clear:both;"> 
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        <title>Michael Imperioli joins Life on Mars US cast</title>   
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        <p><a href="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/michael-imperioli1.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/michael-imperioli/166101&amp;h=150&amp;w=218&amp;sz=13&amp;hl=en&amp;start=6&amp;um=1&amp;tbnid=aAY5zW-uzHLzFM:&amp;tbnh=74&amp;tbnw=107&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522Michael%2BImperioli%2522%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DGGLG,GGLG:2005-32,GGLG:en%26sa%3DN"><img height="74" src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:aAY5zW-uzHLzFM:http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/michael-imperioli1.jpg" style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" width="107" /></a><br />Michael Imperioli (<em>The Sopranos</em>) will join the cast of US <em>Life on Mars</em>, <a href="http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20210205,00.html">according to <em>Entertainment Weekly</em></a>.&#160;<em><a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/inc/quickread/e3i5d0ba91ef6cd18f2543cf69a435a2b50?KeepThis=true&amp;TB_iframe=true&amp;height=310&amp;width=600">The Hollywood Reporter</a></em>, which broke the news, says Imperioli is the American Ray Carling. This does bode well: it means at least one of Ray and Chris will make it back into the script; the original US pilot had removed both characters.</p>   <p style="clear:both;"> 
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        <published>2008-07-03T06:32:48Z</published>
        <updated>2008-07-03T06:49:38Z</updated>
    
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        <p>A &quot;cult of personality&quot; is created when the media casts a leader in a heroic or godlike image, combined with unquestioning praise and flattery for that person even though they have accomplished nothing in their political career.</p><p>A hallmark for dictatorships throughout history, cults of personality have been used to dupe the public ( primarily the youth ) into believing they&#39;re part of a movement, when they are fed empty slogans which they parrot without question.</p><p>Mr. Barrack Obama a covert muslim communist, His role in the historical drama that is being played before us, is he will preside over the U.S. Perestroika, socio-political restructuring, further police state inegration under the ficticious threat of more terror.</p><p>The elite overlords&#160;who promote him, want to further humiliate the U.S. by slapping us in the face ( adding insult to injury ) with a Muslim President and whose name ryme with Osama, that is if you follow the official story line or myth of the war on terror.&#160;I know them like the back of my hand, I think like they ( elite overlords ) do.</p>
<p>An extreme example of &#39;cult of personality&#39; is the dear leader of North Korea Kim Jong-il where he is&#160;practically worshipped as god of the&#160;peasants and armed forces&#160;of North Korea.</p>
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        <title>New Tricks is cool</title>   
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        <published>2008-07-03T06:02:56Z</published>
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        <p>I know Britain is as youth-obsessed as America sometimes, and <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/06/30/nosplit/bvtvnewtricks30.xml">an article in <em>The Daily Telegraph</em></a>, about cop show <em>New Tricks</em>, reminded me of that fact.<br />&#160;&#160; Amanda Redman, the star of the show, and doing better here than in <em>Honest</em>, the remake of the New Zealand series <em>Outrageous Fortune</em>, says in the newspaper, ‘I find it extraordinary, because we are repeated more than any BBC drama ever, and for our repeats alone we get more viewings than the first showings of, for instance, <em>Life on Mars</em>.’<br />&#160;&#160; She may be 48 but the other three principal actors in the series, Dennis Waterman, Alun Armstrong and James Bolan, are between 60 and 73.<br />&#160;&#160; And for some reason, promoting this age group isn’t “cool”.<br />&#160;&#160; The BBC needs to get itself sor’ed.<br />&#160;&#160; With an ageing population in the west, the over-60s is one of the most desirable demographics and it would make a lot of sense to promote shows like <em>New Tricks </em>alongside its other hits such as <em>Doctor Who </em>and <em>Ashes to Ashes</em>.<br />&#160;&#160; It’s why I think the US networks’ opposition to a last Columbo story, on the basis that Peter Falk, in his 80s, is too old to attract advertisers, is bollocks.<br />&#160;&#160; And who is to say that being over 60 isn’t cool? Ask Tom Jones, who still draws in the crowds, including young ’uns, regularly.<br />&#160;&#160; In the US every weeknight, David Letterman, 61, isn’t letting up.<br />&#160;&#160; Interestingly, few seem to think that excluding people based on maturity is politically incorrect—yet we go around advancing the causes of the young.<br />&#160;&#160; Dennis Waterman says in the article, ‘Apparently children are very impressed when their parents point me out and say, “That’s Dennis Waterman”. … They go, “What? Is there a real Dennis Waterman?” So maybe I’ve got a new audience there.’<br />&#160;&#160; The west’s youth obsession hasn’t exactly moved the world on in too many ways: young, inexperienced leaders in politics have not proved visionary in many cases.<br />&#160;&#160; I am not saying we should be like Saudi Arabia where old folks run the show without any idea of advancing human rights.<br />&#160;&#160; But we owe baby boomers and those even older a great debt, and we should be championing their wisdom and experience, just as many great civilized societies have done. Older is cool, but we need to begin having a more accommodating mindset.</p>   <p style="clear:both;"> 
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